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Topic: 2009…LIVING THE AGE OF GOG AND MAGOG
All hadiths are from Bukhari EXCEPT what is mentioned to be in another..
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Bism ALLAH alra’hman alra’him..
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Illuminati, Free masonry, Elders of Zion, and their secret societies and groups (like Bilderburg group) All are different faces for one coin named NEW WORLD ORDER, and the problem is, the description of GOG AND MAGOG is identical to there description, and the strange thing is that also, it is related to the children of Israel..but NOT normal jews..the TRUE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL

In chapter 18 ALLAH tells us, and SPECIALLY tells children of Israel about ZUL-QARNAIN, jumping the part of ZULQARNAIN himself, gog and magog are mentioned at the end whom were doing GREAT MISCHIEF. and that GOD helped ZUL-QARNAIN to build a barrier (physical or metaphoric barrier any way) to stop them

After the prophet went to the Medina, and jews didn’t accept him as the prophet of the last days, GOD sent down this Sura, and also the prophet (not talking about the time now) saw a vision that ALLAH helped them to START BREAKING THE BARRIER [55:565]

Then we know that when gog and magog are released, GOD WILL MERGE THEM LIKE WAVES (18:99) and maybe GOD was not talking about gog and magog ONLY, but talking about people as a whole (as in 60:265, GOD talks about every 999 out of 1000 are from gog and magog!) in this case, this verse can mean that gog and magog will cause a ONE MIXED WORLD, ONE GLOBAL WORLD, which they who control it’s order ONE WORLD ORDER?

They make all people mixed with each other, dress the same way (like casual wear !), eat the same food (like international junk/fast food brands), have the same diseases (like AIDS, bird flu, swine flu..all are man made diseases btw) and use it to stop HAJJ for example [26:663]

looking at (21:96), we find ALLAH talking about gog and magog gathering FASTLY from HIGH places (‘HADB), I don’t think we are talking about high Geographical places (hills), but high SOCIAL places, which means that gog and magog are VERY RICH, SOCIALLY HIGH PEOPLE…in other words ELITE !!

Were gog and magog are ELITES gathering, to do mischief ? ( sorry but that’s the NWO of today! )

in (21:95-96), we will realize that ALLAH talking about group of people FORBIDDEN to get back to their land (it’s about children of Israel) UNTIL THE APPEARANCE OF GOG AND MAGOG (whom will be ELITES gathering)

is it coincidence to find this IDENTICAL to THE STATE OF ISRAEL..which is created by the ELDERS OF ZION (one of the “New World Order” which is consisting of ELITES)..where it is proven by documents, a letter between Belfore and ROTHSCHILD (an owner of the USA central bank and a member of ILLUMINATI, which consists of 13 blood lines of children of Israel)

we find in the age of the dajjal/anti-christ is in the time of gog and magog, as the time of gog and magog started 1400 years ago [55:565] and will end AFTER the dajjal [SAHIH MUSLIM 41:7015], the SAME AGE OF MISCHEIF

looking the main power of these elites of the NWO, it’s the monetary system, which is the GREATEST MISCHEIF EVER. A TOTAL USURY (RIBA) system built on unstable value paper money

-THERE ARE VARIOUS TYPES OF RIBA [69:493],
-CHANGING THE VALUE OF MONEY IN A TRANSACTION IS RIBA [34:344]/[38:506] /[38:499],
-TRANSACTIONS MUST BE DONE THROW CONSTANT VALUE MONEY [34:394],
-UNCONSTANT BANKENOTES ARE RIBA, AND DEALING WITH IT IS RIBA AS WELL [72:845]

IS IT COINCIDENCE TO KNOW THAT THESE ELITES CONTROLLING THE WORLD THROW UNSTOPPABLE POWER..WHICH IS MONEY..ARE WAITING FOR A ONE GLOBAL WORLD, WITH THE DAJJAL AS IT’S LEADER (understand the symbols and the history of the 1 dollar bill)
Nov 13, 2009
10:28 PM


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Reading (17:4-20) we find GOD promising children of Israel to do mischief TWICE, the second time will end THROW THE END OF TIMES, Is it COINCIDENCE for ALLAH to mention TWO MAJOR things of the NEW WORLD ORDER in this same chapter talking about the second mischief of children of Israel, and letting them take back their forbidden land (which is done in the age of gog and magog), and ending this with the end of times?

In verse 12, ALLAH says the word MUBSIRATT which can mean ILLUMINATING… this is the name of ILLUMINATI which consists of 13 blood line of children of Israel !

In verse 13, ALLAH mentions the word BIRD, where the NWO gather at the bohemian grove in USA, worshipping there OWL (it is drawn in the one dollar bill also), this is there MAJOR SYMBOL of wisdom, which they worship!

Even if we don’t know who ZUL-QARNAIN is, we should realize that ALLAH showed us how JUSTICE should be throw this story, and this story is the EXACT OPPOSITE of MISCHIEF, so to know gog and magog’s mischief, this means they are doing the EXACT OPPOISTE of what Zul-Qarnain did

1- who does wrong is not punished, and who does right is punished
2- humans are not respected any more (as Zulqarnain left humans in his middle journey, he didn’t disrespect them or dishonor them although they were unprotected from the sun)
3- human wealth is TOOK BY GOG AND MAGOG (the third journey)


sorry but isn’t this WHAT WE ARE LIVING IN !!!?

1- a president who kills total countries is praised, and who cant share the NWO crimes will be punished

2- a dog in the streets will be took for shelter, and a human will be killed by an epidemic for DEPOPULATION plans

3- all the world money is valued throw the production of the dollars, which is in the hands of the NWO


Is it coincidence to find these characteristics common between gog and magog and New world order?


1- Doing great and powerful mischief on earth
2- Globalizing people, making them all live the same way
3- Elites gathering to do mischief
4- Creating the forbidden state of Israel, and getting the people back
5- Elites in the same age of the dajjal, and waiting for him
6- Doing the TOTAL OPPOSITE of Zul-Qarnain


Read between the lines, watch lectures about GOG AND MAGOG, DAJJAL, ISLAM AND MONETARY SYSTEM for Imran Hosain (on youtube) and read his book (JERUSALEM IN QURAAN) to know more, here I’m putting similar words to what he said, but not his words
Nov 13, 2009
10:30 PM


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i'm not a trusted source, i'm just showing a conclusion i got to..

another thing, the ILLUMINATI is either 12 straight blood lines from children of israel, and the 13th is a variety of another elites, or 13 straight blood lines

it's most probably 12 straight blood lines and the 13th is a variety..any way, this is about the details of the illuminati..

but i dont know if this has any thing to do with the number of the verse

i mean..the verse number is 12, and 12 jewish blood lines !

any way, not the subject
Nov 13, 2009
10:44 PM


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If this is the era of Gog and Magog, then they are already released from that barrier that means they broke the wall or barrier, then where was the barrier and who built it and how it was broken by someone?
Nov 14, 2009
4:52 AM

Posted by Rumi 

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this is another important thing bro, ask your self

was the barrier a PHYSICAL BARRIER, or a METAPHORICAL BARRIER?

if you read the story of ZULQARNAIN, you'll find the story before it is ALKHIDR... the story of ALKHIDR and MOSES (pbuh) has A KEY in it's start..a SYMBOL..A FISH

GOD told Moses that the SYMBOL to know the KHIDR (whom showed him that facts are not as what it seems, but total opposite..and thats the CASE of the era of the dajjal also, where REALITY is the oppoiste of WHAT IS SHOWN)

the SECRET to unlock this knowledge of hidden truth is a

" SYMBOL ".. a FISH

this story isnt put here for no reason..it's between the 2 answers of the questions by the jews

when ALLAH puts us a SYMBOLIC story, holding the same concepts of the end of times..we should realise that this means a VERY IMPORTANT THING

i believe (as also some scholars do) that the KEY of ZULQARNAIN is in the story of ALKHIDR..that it is SYMBOLIC story, not a story stating PHYSICAL FACTS..but METAPHORIC FACTS

the prophet in the hadeeth woke up and his face was red from horror, saying "doom to the arabs, a part like that has been opened in the barrier"

this period which the prophet lived is the SAME PERIOD which GOD closed the LAST CHANCE OF REPENTANCE to the rabbis when they refuse Muhammed

and look in the NWO..they depend on 2 main things..jewish blood lines, and magic took from the KABALA which is a jewish secret knowledge

dont you see a link here ?

if you believe that the barrier is physical barrier then you either have to prove it, or to say that the Quraan is lying.. and both wont happen

Rumi, were you waiting for Zulqarnain to come build a barrier, and wait till this barrier is broken ?

the prophet already showed us that the barrier was there from 1400 years ago

it's not a physical barrier, if you believe it is a physical one..prove it bro.. i put SOURCES for you to READ (all these hadeeth numbers and verses) so go for it and understand

bro..a very important hadeeth to show how DANGEROUS the situation is, is here (i put it before as a source):

Bukhari 60:265 - Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: The Prophet said, "On the day of Resurrection Allah will say, 'O Adam!' Adam will reply, 'Labbaik our Lord, and Sa'daik ' Then there will be a loud call (saying), Allah orders you to take from among your offspring a mission for the (Hell) Fire.' Adam will say, 'O Lord! Who are the mission for the (Hell) Fire?' Allah will say, 'Out of each thousand, take out 999.' At that time every pregnant female shall drop her load (have a miscarriage) and a child will have grey hair. And you shall see mankind as in a drunken state, yet not drunk, but severe will be the torment of Allah." (22.2) (When the Prophet mentioned this), the people were so distressed (and afraid) that their faces got changed (in color) whereupon the Prophet said, "From Gog and Magog nine-hundred ninety-nine will be taken out and one from you. You Muslims (compared to the large number of other people) will be like a black hair on the side of a white ox, or a white hair on the side of a black ox, and I hope that you will be one-fourth of the people of Paradise." On that, we said, "Allahu-Akbar!" Then he said, "I hope that you will be) one-third of the people of Paradise." We again said, "Allahu-Akbar!" Then he said, "(I hope that you will be) one-half of the people of Paradise." So we said, Allahu Akbar."

1 out of 999 in the age of gog and magog will enter heaven..mathimatically, we are talking about 5 MILLION PERSON of today will only go to heaven !

do you want to know why, because Riba is CURSE, and all of us, with NO EXCEPTIONS deal with it..may ALLAH forgive who cant stop it, and let people know about it

sorry i got out of the point..but i'm showing you how dangerous the situation is..it's annoying, but if it's right..it will be the biggest mistake to ignore it

the barrier is not a physical barrier since it is not proved to be there, and the KEY story for ZULQARNAIN is a SYMBOLIC STORY showing similar (OPPOSITE) concepts to the ones of the dajjal (and gog and magog ERA)
Nov 14, 2009
8:11 AM


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bro did you read the whole original topic ?

any way, it wont take more than 5 minutes reading ( :D trust me in this, i hate reading, but in this case..we should read)
Nov 14, 2009
8:16 AM


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Sallam
i think Tony Angel should post his story on Gog and Magog.
something to do with Uk and USA.
Nov 14, 2009
3:32 PM

Posted by Ninja 

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Yes bro i read it. I just want to say your last mentioned Hadeeth about 999 out of 1000 will go to hell and connecting riba as one of the main reason for that has terrified me so much. Thank you so much for conveying me about that. Because one way or another many of us are stuck in riba system. Allah(SWT) help us in this matter.

Now let's talk about the main topic. All these time since i was a kid I've been hearing about the story of Jul-Qurnaine and the barrier but never thought that it could be metaphorical!!! it sounds convincing bro and I begin to believe what are you saying. To tell you the truth for long time even before joining the United Muslim I've been thinking about all the symptoms i heard that will occurred before the day of resurrection. And we can see that one by one many or most of them already took place. Isn't it so horrifying. If so what you believe is happening also what I think is true, be really true we are living narly on the verge of the day of the resurrection. isn't it bro??? Only Allah(SWT) knows what will happen.
Nov 14, 2009
5:14 PM

Posted by Rumi 

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"if you read the story of ZULQARNAIN, you'll find the story before it is ALKHIDR... the story of ALKHIDR and MOSES (pbuh) has A KEY in it's start..a SYMBOL..A FISH" -

How do you relate Al-Khidr with Jul-Qurnaine? and what do you mean by fish???

One more question about Al-Khidr. I heard that Al-Khidr will live till the the day of the resurrection. What do you know about that?
Nov 14, 2009
6:01 PM

Posted by Rumi 

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bro i dont know about ALKHIDR that much, all i know is that this is a true story happened on the days of moses (pbuh) but just look at the attitudes of the story of ALKHIDR and the story of Zul qarnain, and what gog and magog (and the dajjal) will do

in al khidr there are main things to see

1- GOD told moses that to know the khidr, GOD will give him a SYMBOL (which is LOSING the fish in there hand)

2- that WHAT YOU SEE is the OPPOSITE of what is the truth
like:

- when you LOSE the fish, you'll FIND the Khidr
- when the ship is DESTROYED, the sailors are SAVED
- when the boy is KILLED, it's BETTER for him and his parents
- when they serve the GREED people, it's BETTER for the good kids

read the story :D, i mean.. the main 2 ideas are

1- symbolism
2- what you see is OPPOSITE to what's true

these 2 main ideas are related DIRECTLY to the end of times..when we look for Zulqarnain talking about gog and magog

what gog and magog do in our world is

1- symbolism
2- what you see is OPPOSITE to what's true

look at the news, see what they want you to know (about palastine, afghanistan, iraq, pakistan) and what is the reality, see the media which is controlled by them, what hollywood is trying to convince you, and what is truely there, and see the SYMBOLISM they use (in the dollar, in there brands, in there lodges, in there rituals..david Icke explained how does these symbols work..throw low vibrations (evil feelings) any way)

when you realise that story of alkhidr is EXPLAINING US what these people will do, ALSO ZULQARNAIN IS EXPLAINING US THE SAME WAY

we got 2 points from the story of alkhidr (symbolism, showing you lies as facts), and we have another 3 in Zulqarnain (i mentioned before, and i'll paste them here)..and also throw the same way

THEY WILL DO MISCHIEF, this means they will do the OPPOSITE of Zulqarnain..lets see whats the opposite here:


1- who does wrong is not punished, and who does right is punished

2- humans are not respected any more (as Zulqarnain left humans in his middle journey, he didn’t disrespect them or dishonor them although they were unprotected from the sun)

3- human wealth is TOOK BY GOG AND MAGOG (the third journey)

AND FROM ALKHIDR STORY WE UNDERSTAND THAT

4- THEY WILL USE SYMBOLISM

5- THEY WILL MAKE YOU SEE THINGS OPPOSITE TO THE TRUTH

we now have 5 things as a MAJOR THINGS of gog and magog..i think they are very clear that we are living in these 5 things, and any young child can tell this

you are telling me how ZULQARNAIN metaphoric... i'll tell you a verse that really made me WONDER why it is there when i read it, but i understood it yasterday ( sorry, but i'm an ignorant, my mind is nothing to understand Quraan)..it's directly after the story of Zulqarnain and gog and magog:

109.Say: "If the ocean were ink (wherewith to write out) the words of my Lord, sooner would the ocean be exhausted than would the words of my Lord, even if we added another ocean like it, for its aid."

first i thought " oh my GOD what is the relation between this verse and what is going on in the Sura "

but i realised this when we talk about the story of ZULQARNAIN

this story..i dont think we will have a ONE FINAL CONCLUSION about it

it can be symbolic refering to Jesus (pbuh)
it can be historical and physical (but no one can prove it)
it can be a part of it historical and a part of it metaphoric
it can be a way to show us HOW TO RECOGNISE GOG AND MAGOG
it can be in a symbolic language for the rabbis of children of Israel (as it is an answer for them)

it can be many things, as GOD said,"If the ocean were ink (wherewith to write out) the words of my Lord, sooner would the ocean be exhausted than would the words of my Lord, even if we added another ocean like it, for its aid."

but i'll tell you a hint to show you that ZULQARNAIN is not read CORRECTLY by most

18:86 ..he found it(sun) set IN a spring of murky water..

many people say (this is the view of the setting sun)..but GOD SAID IT IS SETTING IN WATER..

physically IMPOSSIBLE, thats why people dont read what is written, but read what they WANT TO UNDERSTAND..this expression is NEVER PHYSICAL..and thats why i'm saying that maybe the symbolism in ALKHIDR is a KEY for ZULQARNIAN to read it correctly (not even understand it correctly, but read it correctly)

:( REALLY SORRY BRO I KNOW I'VE WROTE ALOT..SORRY AGAIN
Nov 15, 2009
1:31 AM


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